Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: So that, you know, I give speeches like that. Like, always present your best foot forward. Because your life might not be edited, but it certainly is watched.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: And so when you give somebody not your best foot forward, you give somebody a bad attitude. That's all they're going to remember about you, despite all of the good things you've done or been nice to them. And other times, they're going to remember that one time and that guy was a jerk. Scott wouldn't sign my autograph, man.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: It's Brian and Brad.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Grab your seat.
Real talk serve with a boat.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Real estate makes us drink.
Whoops.
[00:00:41] Speaker C: So it was a good time.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: Always have a good time. You know that. All right.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: All right. I look good.
[00:00:48] Speaker C: You do. Yeah. You are a good looking man. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Real Estate Makes Us Drink. This is a success Happy hour. Brian Quinlan here from Daniel's Real Estate.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: Brad Nickup from Nest Mortgage Group.
[00:00:59] Speaker C: You remembered who you were, sir.
You can't tell because we're sitting down. But next to me is a giant human stands close to 7ft tall. Are you actually 6 11?
Former NBA basketball player? Sir, please tell the folks who you are.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: My name is Scott Pollard and I am not an alcoholic.
[00:01:19] Speaker C: Wrong. Meaning.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: I don't have a house like this.
Just saying this is.
It's impressive.
Yeah, it's impressive. I don't mean to make fun of you, Brad, but I'm making fun of you right now. Hey.
[00:01:29] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: This is awesome.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: There's a reason we shoot the show.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: Here because I'd probably be an alcoholic if I had this much in my house. But no, I don't drink, you know, anymore.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: So keep in mind, an alcoholic is somebody who quit.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: So I. I can't. I can't claim that. You know, my mama didn't raise no quitter.
[00:01:49] Speaker C: Well, there you go.
Well, talking about drinking, Brad, what are you consuming today, man?
[00:01:55] Speaker B: Drinking a brand new brand of tequila called Zumbador, which is a hummingbird. Right In. In Mexico Spanish. So this is a brand new tequila. I just did an interview with Roberto and Sarah and they talk about their production method and the traditional way that they make this tequila. The dude's 35 years old. He owns a ranch where they grow agave. He built his own distillery and now he has his own tequila brand. And he's 35 years old, like Moly. Unbelievable. The guy's done more at 35 than most people get done their whole life. And the tequila is fantastic. Is a great price, like 25 bucks a bottle.
[00:02:33] Speaker C: Is it?
[00:02:34] Speaker B: Could you buy it Locally, you can't yet, but you can buy it from their website and have it shipped, and there's probably a certain amount. You probably get free shipping, I would think. But pretty, pretty great tequila. It's a great budget brand and it'll be everywhere soon.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Super cool.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: What do you got?
[00:02:49] Speaker C: All right, well, today we've gone the Quaffon route out of Nashville.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: You've had that here before.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: I have.
[00:02:55] Speaker C: Honestly, we. We did a little shifting of our schedule so I didn't have a chance to get out to the liquor store to hit the singles aisle. And I'm not picking up ladies picking up beers. And so this was in the fridge. So quaff on six foot blonde. My blonde is about five, seven, I think back home she may even tell you she's not blonde. Either way.
Golden Ale, high quality. Big fan. There we go.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Cheers. Scott's got some high quality water over there.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: High quality H2O.
[00:03:27] Speaker C: Well, Scott, thanks for being here today.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just at Hard Truth Distillery, actually, when I heard the Quaffon story and all that. It's. That's a really cool place you guys been?
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I have been, yeah.
[00:03:39] Speaker C: Yes, I did a whole distillery tour down there.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that place is really impressive.
[00:03:43] Speaker C: It is quite cool.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: And even though we're talking about Quaan, the show is sponsored by Sun King.
[00:03:49] Speaker C: That's correct.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: So make sure that you grab your Sun King beer wherever you can find.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: I hit up Kevin. We don't know Steve. We've had Kevin on the show from Sun King.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:04:00] Speaker C: And anyways, I hit him up over the weekend, so I got to go get some more beers from Kevin. But definitely loving the Sun King. So thanks to our friends at Sun King. All right, here, crack open a cold sunlight cream ale from Sun King or mix it up with Wimac, Osiris or a seasonal like Play Hard 4 indie taproom locations or find it wherever you grab your beer. Sun King, Indiana brewed Summer approved.
All right, Scott, how do you know Brad?
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Brad.
Let's see. It's been, I think two years.
I used to be a realtor. I'm not anymore, but my wife is still.
And so we had kind of met through that industry a little bit, but then a couple years ago, this underhanded fellow talked us into re financing our house. So, you know, screwed me over on rates.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: I think I said, yeah, I probably can refinance you if you want to.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: We're buried in debt now.
It's all Brad's fault.
Thanks, Brad. You're welcome, Scott.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Appreciate you.
[00:05:05] Speaker C: I'm surprised you came out with that story.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: No, it's, that's all. But all of it's true, except the part where Brad screwed, so.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: All right.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Like, he did help us refinance our house, and it's gone so awesome.
[00:05:16] Speaker C: All right, now you guys have a bonding over part of your history, which is Survivor.
I have a loose connection to you, having just met you today, but, you know, I'm a big sports guy, basketball especially. And so I've, I've kind of followed you loosely from your Kansas days.
And then, of course, you know, we're here with the Pacers, and I, I saw your license plate outside, so let's, I don't know, get a little background so you don't have to go necessarily way back to where it all started, but wherever you'd like to begin with that.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Well, I was born a poor black child.
[00:05:56] Speaker C: Wow, that's an interesting story.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Started crying right in the beginning.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: That's, that's Steve Martin, the jerk. But no, I, I, I was born in Utah, raised in San Diego.
Youngest of six. My whole family's giant. I'm small in my family. That's why I say I'm 6 11. Because when I would round up my brothers that are taller than me used to beat the out of me.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: Oh, my. Wow.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: I'm 6 11. Two of them are 7ft 17 3.
My oldest brother is the shortest. He's only 6 9.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Holy cow.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: My sister's 6 2. My dad was 6 9. My mom's 6 2.
So, yeah, I'm from a big, big family in numbers and height. Wow. And we're. There's no giantism or Mark fans or any of that stuff people ask because I've been having art issues lately. They're like, have you ever one of those things the giant doesn't? I'm like, no, I'm not gonna grow until I die.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: That's giantism.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: Mar fans, is when everybody in your family is typically the same height and you're a giant. And that actually, spoiler alert. Is probably 80 to 90 of the NBA.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: Oh, no kidding.
[00:07:04] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: And what Marfans does is it causes you to have really long fingers, really long toes, long appendages. So basically an NBA player.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Not an Indy car racer.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Abnormal height and sometimes a concave chest, very thin build.
Abraham Lincoln, for example, they think he had more fans. I have a very good friend at 6 9, he has more fans. Everybody in his family the same height. He's already had open heart surgery.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: To fix about which is common, but it's. It hits you later in life and, and not everybody is subject to those heart issues. But anyway, I digress. I. Okay. Went to college at the University of Kansas. I was ranked in High school number 33 in the country at one point.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: So I had my pick and Roy Williams won me over. He was the coach of Kansas at the time. Number eight or no, sorry, number seven.
And just I didn't want to go that far east. I didn't know exactly where Lawrence, Kansas was. Being from the west coast, not much there. I did not know about the history of Kansas and all the important things that make wow. Basketball wonderful, make the city of Lawrence special in our nation's history.
For example, it was founded by people from Lawrence, Massachusetts to stop the spread of slavery westward. I could go off on that. I was a history guy and so I did not know that it's. The colors are crimson and blue because of Harvard and Yale.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: And that's why it's called the Ivy League school in the Midwest. The Harvard Midwest, however you want to say it. But that's what they jokingly referred to because Lawrence, Kansas is found from Lawrence, Massachusetts. How about that is Massachusetts Ave.
And anyway, I can go off on that. This is all fascinating one hour episode.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: Okay, we'll bring it back for that one.
[00:08:44] Speaker A: And you know, I played with NBA players my whole career. I played behind Greg Oster Tag, who was a first round pick and 12 year NBA player my first two years. And then I came off the bench well behind him and then I finally started my junior and senior year and that's when my senior year Coach Williams was like, hey, there's an NBA scouts here. I was like, yeah, coach, there's always NBA scouts here.
[00:09:05] Speaker C: We're Kansas.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: He goes, I'm like, you know that's Paul Pierce right there, right? Yeah, that's Rachel Friends, that's Jack Vaughn. I'm like, yeah, I know there's NBA.
[00:09:13] Speaker C: Scouts here dropping names.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Those are the other three out of my starting five. And the other one was Jared Hass, who was just the latest job was the head coach at Stanford. And Jared would have had a chance at the NBA, but he played our senior year with his wrist broken in a shooting hand. So when he got it fixed, it was too late to get any tryouts and he just went straight into coaching, but got drafted first round by the Detroit Pistons, 19th pick. I could go off on how that happened.
Funny story. This is actually true.
I don't know if you've heard of Greg Popovich.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: He just retired and he was the.
[00:09:51] Speaker C: Winningest coach in NBA history now.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know.
[00:09:54] Speaker C: He's pretty close.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: I don't know. Because, you know, some of those guys just. They didn't. They don't have more wins than losses, but they have the most wins.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Like Bill Fitch.
[00:10:02] Speaker C: Sure.
Long career.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Like losing record, but like a thousand wins or something like that. Yeah.
So when the draft was coming up and I confirmed this in person with Pop, after I retired from the NBA, when I was doing broadcasting for the Pacers, actually, they had the broadcast team put me up to it. I interviewed him post game and I said, coach, is it true that there was a discussion when you guys had the first pick of the draft in 1997 to pick me instead of Tim Duncan?
And he said it was a brief discussion, but it was true. Wow.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: I was very impressive in my pre draft workouts. And he confirmed, he said, you know, obviously there's a Kansas connection. He used to coach at Kansas under Larry Brown. So did R.C. buford, the still current GM of the San Antonio Spurs. There's been a pipeline. Larry Brown went to coach at San Antonio and they know Bill Self, they know Roy Williams, and so there's been a Kansas pipeline throughout the years.
And the reason that Pop gave was that I was just more NBA ready than Tim at the time. We played against each other our freshman year and I busted his ass and he got better and I got a little better.
And I make that story real. And I say that because in the most humble way possible.
What a tragedy it would have been if the San Antonio spurs have picked me instead of Tim Duncan for them.
It'd be great for me, right?
[00:11:32] Speaker C: You would have been a power forward with David Robinson.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: I would have played with David Robinson and Tony Parker and the gang. And I may not have gotten a second contract, but I would have gotten a rookie contract with San Antonio spurs. So anyway, 11 years in the NBA, retired here, got divorced here, got remarried in Colorado, but we live here raising kids and Carmel, Indiana, and done a little bit of this, a little bit of that. We could. Again, that's. That's a whole other episode.
[00:11:59] Speaker C: All right, so doing a little research today, you played in two NBA Finals, one with Cleveland that lost to the spurs.
And then your last year, you were on the Celtics that won the title.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: So technically I played in the finals with Cleveland. I was not active duty with the Celtics. I had had career ending surgery already and they replaced me with PJ Brown, another veteran old guy.
But yes, I went to the, I've been to the Western Conference finals, played a lot in those. Played in the Eastern Conference finals with the Pacers, Eastern Conference finals with the Cavs, and won it all with Boston my last year. And that was a good year to hang it up because I couldn't really walk.
[00:12:43] Speaker C: You said you were injured, done for the season at that point, but I assume you get a ring for that, right?
[00:12:48] Speaker A: I have a ring. And you, you know, I don't wear it much anymore, but I, I am proud of that ring because it's for all the teams I was on. I, I was very fortunate to always be on a good team.
Three years of varsity, four years of college, 11 years in the NBA. My only time I never played in the postseason was my rookie year in the NBA.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Every other team I was on had a chance, so I never won one, especially my senior year. We were ranked number one from start to finish, even after we lost one game.
But we were undefeated up to 23,04 first round picks. Two of them were lottery picks. Paul Pierce and Ray for friends the next year after. Jock and I were first round picks that year in 97. So I've always been on really good, talented teams. I know how to win. I am a winner. If you don't believe me, just let me introduce you to Mrs. Pollard.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: He did out kick his coverage on.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: That one and so there's, you know, there's something to that and life and lessons and, and so I, I do public speaking and all that because I have a lot of stories.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: But this is amazing because I thought you were famous because of Survivor.
[00:13:57] Speaker C: Tell that story because that's actually pretty funny.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah, like I'm a huge Survivor fan and you know Kevin Fleck, one of my loan officers that knows Scott very well is like, yeah, you know Scott Pollard. And I was like, yeah, he's on Survivor. He looked at me, he's like, he was an NBA player.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: I was like, yeah, yeah.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: But he was on Survivor. Season 32 is amazing. And he got completely blindsided by a little Asian guy that didn't stick to his word and he blasted him out of the show. So, yeah, I remember that very well.
That was like a super Idol or something, wasn't it?
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So they, they never used him again. But the Super Idol was, the idea was you, you, if you could trust another player that had an idol or if you got to yourself with. Nobody did that.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: Right.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: But if you had somebody you could trust that you could go to the vote and get voted out, but if they wanted to share the idol with you, you could go connect the idols. You both lose your idol, but you save the one that bridle and then the next votes, the next most votes gets voted out. So what Ty didn't know at the time, and I don't know if he still doesn't know, but what he didn't know is the girls didn't trust him either.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: And they talked him into betraying me, but they voted him the second most votes. So if he had given me his idol, he would have been voted out. Oh, because he had the second most votes. They split the vote because they had enough.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: They wanted to get one of you.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: Out, one of us was going home. And Ty didn't do that because he thought they were going to vote him out. He did it because he didn't want to give up his idol.
He would. He was just. That. That was his mindset. And. And by the way, Ty and I get along off the show. Like, we're really good friends. Actually. We went dinner shortly after the show out in San Francisco with him and his boyfriend, and they're great people. And. And so I don't mean to, like, say, oh, oh, man, screw Ty. Because it's just.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Well, I did. I was mad.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: We got death threats. You know, my wife was pregnant at the time. She got social media threats like, I hope your baby's born stillborn.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Like, are you serious?
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Survivor fans. There's people on the Internet that are just horrible.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: People are horrible on the Internet. I agree with.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: You know, so we just, you know, you just take a break and go, oh, yeah, that's right. Those are people behind the keyboard. They're just, you know, keyboard warriors.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: We call them trolls.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Whatever. They. It comes into their little brainiums and then they just. There's no repercussions, you know, and those usually are the people that when they meet me in person are the biggest fans and they're like, oh, my God. Can I get a picture?
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: I was the one that told you to kill yourself.
Yeah. No. How about no?
[00:16:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: Because words mean something. Right?
[00:16:28] Speaker B: Words do mean things.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Exactly. So you're lucky I'm not going to punch you in the face, but I don't want to pay you to punch you in the face. Right. You'll just. Simple.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: Right, Right.
So it seems like the. The. The friendships that are made on the show. I know. It's under such extreme situations that friendships are bound quickly. Do those really last after the show. Like, do you still have friends that you're friends with after this many years.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Jason, for my season and I, we still keep in touch touch regularly. We're the only ones that married with kids. Okay. And so, you know, we got made into villains and we laughed because we were like, we're the only people that actually have a life.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Everybody else was single or starving.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: Very young, too.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Well, except for Joe, who was like, yeah, sexual player ever. Yeah. Yeah. And. And Joe was, you know, he had married and had adult children, but, like, you know, we had young kids that we were playing to support our family. Like, both of us are like, hey, man, I want to win money.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: Right?
[00:17:18] Speaker A: You know, it's not like we're sitting here going, I just to be famous, right? I already was.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. You went there already famous.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: So I was just like, hey, you know what? I'm gonna take a vacation. I'm gonna make some money. It's gonna be awesome. And I did. It was the last. But, yeah, Jason and I keep in touch, you know, mostly through social media, but once in a while, we'll text each other like, hey, brother, how you doing?
But, yeah, great, dude.
And, you know, even, like, there's everybody except one person that if I saw them, I would give them a hug, and that person is just there. Their. Their thing. Like, I would hug them, but they're, you know, they. They thought they have a wall. They're thought that the game show was real. Yeah.
So it's like, oh, well, there's no help.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you can't help that at all.
[00:18:00] Speaker C: So one of the things you were known for second maybe latter half of your NBA career was odd hairstyles, which I feel kind of makes you stand out. So I wonder, how did you wind up on Survivor? Did it have anything to do with the kind of outlandish popularity of your hairstyles that, like, hey, we want this, or did you reach out to Survivor and, like, I'd like to be on the show.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: So one correction, I will say I dyed my hair the first time in seventh grade.
[00:18:29] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: It wasn't the latter part of my career.
It was my entire life.
And so there's that. But they reached out to me the first time in 2011, and as I mentioned before, I was getting divorced at that point, and it wasn't a good time for me to leave the country for seven weeks.
So just, you know, it just didn't.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: Seem There would have been a moving truck cleaning out everything.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: It wasn't a good time for me and so I told him no. And also that I've, like, I've never seen the show. And so I was like, you know, I don't really care.
And then they reached out again in 2014, and that season actually was the first iteration of Brainsboro and Beauty. And they took Clifford Robbins.
Oh, okay. From the Portland Trailblazers. God rest his soul.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: He was a basketball player, too.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: And so that in 2014, we married. My wife is a big Survivor. Not a big Survivor fan, but she's actually been on the show or watched the show and wanted to be on the show. And so she was like, are they doing a couple season?
Like, please, I don't know what that is. But I. They didn't say anything about it.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: Yeah, you weren't invited.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Just called me again, and they were like, hey, can you go now? And I was like, sub to you? And she was like, yeah, go, have fun.
So that's what happened during casting. I did casting like everybody else.
You know, I could give you a whole. There'd be three podcasts about that one.
It's. It's interesting. There's no talking to other contestants. Only the producers talk. You're not allowed to interact with each other, and they have people in the room to make sure. And you let you stay in your own room, and there's people in the hallway making sure you don't sneak out and talk to anybody.
Because just in case you end up on the same season, they don't want you to have any previous relationship.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: They didn't get on tv.
And so it just helps with the validity of the show that nobody gets to talk to each other during casting. But I went back twice, and then they. They said, yeah, come on. And they made me watch some DVDs of previous seasons. Club season was one of them. The season Jeff Kent, the baseball player was on because I was an athlete. They were like, here's what athletes did. Before one of them told him who he was. The other one lied, and everybody did.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Was the one that said he was a motorcycle dealer in Dallas or something.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Everybody knew f that guy voted him off.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: That we knew the whole time.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:20:41] Speaker C: Jeff Kent played in a big market.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: He was a Hall of Famer.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like Cliff played in Portland. That's like having Elvis on the show and say, no, I just work at a donut store.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Braves, like the most televised TV show. Their owner owned the channel.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: They were on tv.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: I even knew he was a baseball player.
[00:21:03] Speaker C: All right, so we're Going down the Survivor tunnel here. So going into the show, what did you expect? And then while on the show, did it kind of live up to that or not?
[00:21:17] Speaker A: I. Despite them telling you exactly what is going to happen, I fully expected there to be some breaks. I fully expected that. It was like, okay, cut.
You can chill out for a while.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: We're going to the mall.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Here's a coffee. Or, you know, like. Or we'll start the fire for you. Or something like that, you know, or like that.
The surviving part is 100 real.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: No kidding.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: They don't give you anything. At least my season, we didn't get rice.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: Did you get to brush your teeth?
[00:21:43] Speaker A: No, I found a toothbrush on the beach and I was gonna boil it in water and brush my teeth. They took it away, found a bottle on the beach. I was going to use it to carry extra water around because I was drinking water like crazy.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: Trying to stay hydrated. And I made it 28 days in the game. I lost 46 pounds.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: And it was one of the hottest seasons was Cambodia. Yeah. It was so hot and humid. Crazy.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Well, May and April. April actually is the hottest month in Southeast Asia. I've been to Thailand quite a bit. My wife is from there.
Her mom.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: Gotcha.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: But so we have family there, and all four of my kids are mixed.
So I've been to Thailand. My first time was 1995. So that's the hottest month of the year is April.
And. And we didn't have showers. And so the surviving part was real. There was infections.
You know, I could go off on all the stuff that happened with infections, sickness and all that.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: That was actually one of the shows that has the most medical attention of any of the survivors. There was.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: You go to medical every day? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. They. They. If there's a challenge that. That's. That's the only time you're not. You're not allowed to talk. And the only time the cameras are off is they say lockdown and everybody has to face back to back, you know, Face back to back. That's like jumbo shrimp.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: Government worker.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: They can't.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: You're welcome. You're welcome.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: So they. They. They say lockdown and nobody can talk. Cameras are off. And then we. And again, this is my season's experience.
We had to wait with the tiki torches for the helicopter to come do the flyby and film us walking down the beach as if we were walking to the Tribal Council, whichever it was. And so we would wait, and then all of a sudden, they'd go, okay, helicopters here, line up. And we'd line up and walk down the beach as if we're walking to the challenge. And then the helicopter would get the footage, and they go, all right, here's your tiki torches. Get in the boats. And we'd take the boats over to the island where the challenge was or tribal, because they were different islands. We were on a different island from Brain. We were on a different island from Braun. Or, I'm sorry, Beauty. We were brawn. And so every time we went somewhere, it was in a boat. And same thing. There's a producer in the boat making sure nobody talks to each other, no gestures.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: Oh. So you had to be quiet even in the boat.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: And so it was a couple hours every day. It was like an app, because the boat ride was, like, 35, 45 minutes each way.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: So because it wasn't on camera, they didn't want you socializing at all.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Want anything to happen, any action to happen with the cameras not rolling. And they can't roll in the boat because it loses the authenticity of walking to try.
And then you go in, and you sit in a tent. Same thing. When you get to the island, you sit in a tent facing each other. Can't talk to each other. And one by one, you go to medical, and then one by one, you go to wardrobe, because they take a picture, they want you to look the same. Why?
[00:24:31] Speaker B: So you can edit and cut it.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Together so that one day, some reaction that you have might fit a different part, different dinner.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: You've got to cry that you can't go to prom, even though prom was yesterday and you win. You had a great time.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: So that. That probably was the hardest part for me was being quiet because, you know, they'd be on lockdown, and it's like, all right, I'd want to start singing dumb songs, because that's what I do. And. And so, like, doing a podcast with these guys. There's a bunch of tequila that I'm not drinking.
That's the kind of stuff I do. And so they're like, no. And then they'd be on the other aisle on the other side of the island doing testimonials, which, by the way, that's how they make the action happen.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: You can be tighter than a drum with somebody, and they'll take them to the testimonial. That's the only time you're alone with a camera on and they grill you. Are you sure you can trust Ty?
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Oh, no kidding.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: We're good. Well, I heard him say this.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: Are you sure he's got a tattoo of your ex wife on his back?
[00:25:42] Speaker A: One of my strategies in the game was watching people before and after testimonial because I play poker and I'm making sure they come back and they're looking me in the eye. Oh. Because if they don't and if they're too much, it's like, they got you. You're gonna betray me. And if it wasn't enough, it was like, I got you.
Wow. You just had to, like, see if they were changing their attitude when they came back from testimonial. But anyway, somebody would be over there talking. And I'm over here on the island just picking up rocks or throwing stuff around or going for a swim or whatever, and I'm singing dumb songs. They come, I'm picking up rocks like.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: I found a stick. Shut up. Like what?
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Just sing the song. They're like, we don't have the rights to Frank Sinatra.
We can hear you on the testimonial.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Good.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Well, okay, then I'm gonna make up songs. And they're like, fine, but not so loud because we keep hearing you on the testimonial. I was like, that sounds like a you problem.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: Yeah, you tighten up your mics.
I've got some rocks.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: I've got songs in my heart and rocks.
And I'm throwing rocks in the water because I don't have anything else to do.
[00:26:44] Speaker C: So the time. And I don't watch Survivor I have in the past, but just don't really care for it anyway because I feel like I just get the sense that there's a fair amount of it that's scripted.
So how would you answer that?
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Wait a second. I didn't know we were going to have a podcast to ruin my favorite show.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: So, like I said, the surviving part is real, 100%. Like, there's no breaks. The cameras are on all the time. Except for the aforementioned issues. Like, even at night, they'll put up a big wall of. Of infrared light.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: And so that. That you don't see it, obviously. But at night, they put up this big wall right by where you're sleeping so that they can catch you. Somebody sneaks out and goes looking for an idol in the middle of the dark, which, you know, unless it was a moonlight night, you couldn't see anything anyway.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: Or they hand you a flashlight.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, because of wardrobe. Because of, you know, the time in between tribal challenge or tribals challenge or tribal council. That. Or a challenge.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: A challenge.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: Then in my season, it was 39 days, and they told us it was about three days of real life for one episode. So if you think back to the last 72 hours of your life, have you done something smart, dumb, funny, brain dead, mean, nice?
They have 72 hours of you and all of your emotions to splice together and make it fit so that they can tell a story, at least an attitude. You said and did all the things you said and did, but it may not be what you said and did at that exact moment that fits where.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: They put it in the ultimate. Taken out of context.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: That was my today, by the way.
That's called being in the mortgage business.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: And so that, you know, I give speeches like that, like, always present your best foot forward because your life might not be edited, but it certainly is watched.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: And so when you give somebody not your best foot forward, give somebody a bad attitude, that's all they're going to remember about you. Despite all of the good things you've done or been nice to them in other times, they're going to remember that one time and that guy was a jerk. Scott wouldn't sign my autograph, man.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we don't get to edit our lives. Yeah, you don't.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: And so that. That was my experience. And. And again, I'm not saying this to be sour grapes. I signed up for reality tv. I knew exactly what to expect. And as soon as I saw the other tattooed guy with a beard, I was like, jason, we're probably going to be villains. And we played it up. We had a blast with it, because again, we were trying to win money for our families.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: Right?
[00:29:13] Speaker A: We were not trying to win money and be famous. We were trying to win money for our family. So we were like, hey, this might get us further.
Let's do this, and let's try to use Ty. Let's try to use this person or whatever. And that was our strategy. So, you know, when it came out and all of a sudden I was like, whoa, I'm a villain, okay? And I kind of laughed. And then also, I'm getting death threats on the Internet because of the way they edited my.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: That's crazy words.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: And my. My phrase is like, why don't you just do this? You know, there's one like, people like, I can't believe you told that girl to be a cheerleader. I was like, well, that's what she was being.
You know, Did I say it exactly when she said that? No.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: It's a. Right. You know, I said it a different time. I was like, hey, this is what you're good at. Just do that.
And they edited it like she was saying something to me.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: And I immediately said, I want to be a doctor. You should be a cheerleader.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: And so anyway. And again, I'm not bitter. I. I had a blast on the island. The best part was when I got voted out and I had 11 more days because then it was all you could eat.
[00:30:09] Speaker C: I was gonna ask.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: I was gonna say you, like, you go to, like, a beautiful hotel.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: And so no pre jury in Cambodia.
Well, pre show, we went to a place on the beach.
The kitchen was outside. The bar was outside with a roof. There was a patio, and there was a couple bungalows that had walls.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Is it kind of like this sanctuary today where they get to go and eat and like on a. On when they win a challenge? Oh, you don't watch the show.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: But it was. They called it Ponderosa when I played. And that was our pre show. Like, we were there for three days doing Survivor school. So again, no talking. You can eat this. If you find this, you can eat it. If you see this run. If you see this. Oh, and it bites you. It's going to ruin your day. But it won't kill you. Don't step on this in the ocean. It will kill you. You know, stuff like that. Because Cambodia has a lot of stuff.
[00:30:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: And so for three days there, you're just kind of eating, drinking. You know, they have a. They had a big tub of beer. They had hard liquor if you wanted it. And so water, of course. But. But that was pre show. And so that's where we went. As you get voted off. But spoiler alert, I made the jury. Pre Jury people, they took them all away.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: So when.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: So they left. They left the island.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: The first jury member went back to Ponderosa alone. Oh. And all the pre jury people I hear through the grapevine went on an amazing trip through Southeast Asia. They went to Phnom Penh. They went to Bangkok. They went to Vietnam. They saw temples. They stayed in hotels. They stayed. And they only stay for like, a day or two because they don't want word to get out around the world who they are.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Who's out? Yeah.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: Because they'll tell people they've learned all this doing Survivor. And so they went on amazing vacation. We as jury members went back to Ponderosa. So basically outdoors still, because the bungalows, even with the bed, it was still open air, like the great. You could see the beach between the slats and the Floor.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: And I'm going to guess your bed wasn't made for somebody six, eleven.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: That was fine. Fine. It was. I think it was a queen, maybe a small king. Like, it wasn't a full king, but it was. It was big enough. I slept diagonally.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: All right.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: I was happy to be on a bed after sleeping.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: For some reason, I just. I pictured somewhere around your knees, everything sticking out.
[00:32:15] Speaker C: That may have been a lifelong problem, though.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Learn how to deal with that.
[00:32:20] Speaker A: You get used to dealing with stuff like that. So that wasn't the biggest problem. But, you know, 11 days of just eating, drinking back at Ponderosa, being on the beach, which I grew up around the beach, so I was like, this is awesome. The only thing that was bad is I miss my family. Yeah. I wanted my family to be there on vacation with me, so I'd go swimming to try to drown my tears.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: I miss my wife and children.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: While you and the jury members all start to congregate, like, are you discussing those who are left?
[00:32:44] Speaker A: 100%. That's all, dude. That's all you got?
[00:32:47] Speaker B: That's all there is in there.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: The tribal challenges and watch them talk to each other.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Tribal Council.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: We go to the tribal Councils and we keep. And we watch them interact, and we're.
[00:32:55] Speaker C: Like, actually, do you get to go to the challenges and watch those.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: No, I don't get to watch the challenges. Because here's the thing about challenges. They have all the cameras preset, and you get one take.
[00:33:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: So if one of the jury members happens to be in.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that take is screwed.
[00:33:10] Speaker A: So.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they did not allow us to do that. And they. They. They.
That's. That's also a long, quiet time.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:33:19] Speaker A: Because when there was 18 of us, you know, three groups, each group would go through the entire challenge with Jeff, and you can ask as many questions as you want, and you could hear. You can't talk to each other. You can only ask a question of Jeff when he's ready for a question.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: So. So you. So when they. When he does that quick little. You're going to do this. Everybody understand? And everybody says yes. They've already gone through a process of being able to ask questions about the entire challenge right after that.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: And then it's about an hour and a half when there's three tribes, because each tribe goes through individually to ask their own questions about strategy.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: But you would hear some of their questions. It's like, yeah, it's water. Is this water?
How deep is this Water.
[00:34:00] Speaker B: Is this the kind of water I can drown in?
[00:34:02] Speaker A: Can we climb over the log or under the log? Like, just figure that out.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: People do ask dumb questions.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Oh, my Lord. So anyway, it would take a long time to get through each group asking about this particular challenge. And so by the time the challenge, you're back on the mat and then he goes and Survivor is ready, you know, like, yeah, it's an hour and a half in between. When he says, okay, if you have any questions.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: Sure, I can see that. I mean, we have a little bit.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: Of it makes it fair, I guess. You can, like, know what to expect because you can't just look at a challenge and go, oh, I got this.
[00:34:33] Speaker C: Oh, for sure.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: A lot of them are just like, especially again, the show is very height prejudiced.
You know, there was one where we had to balance like little two by fours on a floating board, but to get to them, you had to step in these squares that were attached to the floating board. So if you hit the sides of one of the squares, it would knock all your boards over and you had to set them up in order so that you could knock them over at the end and then knock over the. The goal. And that was to win the challenge. Well, you know, Ty's got feet this big, right. He's hopping in between.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: You have squares. Yeah, probably like that big giraffe.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: Size dogs trying to fit them in the squares diagonal. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fun. And this is totally fair.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: And Shaq's at home going, what's Pollard bitching about?
[00:35:26] Speaker A: So, you know, I, I make that joke because, yeah, I knew there was going to be hype challenges and, you know, they, of course they had to put a basketball shooting one in. Well, yeah, for the basketball dork. But, you know, it overall, I didn't. I won a couple teen challenges, but when it came to jury time and it's individual challenges, I didn't win one. I was no threat. No kidding in a challenge.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: I remember that.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: Just all they were thinking, like, stand on a tiny balancing board with both feet and hold a platter with three balls on it.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: And balance again. Ties like this. And Michelle actually, I think won that.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: He was a real yoga guy too, though, wasn't he?
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Yeah. But also Michelle used to be waitress.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: She's. Oh, yeah.
[00:36:08] Speaker A: So, you know, and I'm like.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Bam.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: One. There was like one. It was like being crucified.
And I don't mean to exaggerate what, you know.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: Believe in those sort of things. But you had to stand there on a. On a board slat that was this big sticking out of the bottom. So your heels were on the bottom. It was this big, and you're standing up there, and you had to hold on here. Well, I'm holding on. Basically going to pull up the whole time because I've got about an inch of my heels.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Again, size 18. 200. And, well, I got there, I was 311. By the time I was done, I was 266.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: So half your heel is off.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Like a quarter. Like an inch.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: Of my heel.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Like standing on your pinky toe.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: Okay, this is not gonna work.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm done.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: Food challenge. And so I was like, jeff, just when it's time for food, I'm done. Like, I just hung on because I wanted. It was like, if you quit, you get food. Of course. Who won that one? Tyler guy weighs 45 pounds, right? It was half of his foot on the board.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
Came over, hanging on across.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: He actually snuck into our country.
[00:37:13] Speaker B: No kidding.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: He came to America on a boat, and he was. He was hidden and he became a citizen.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: He. He actually was on a boat from Vietnam. And so also. Yeah. When we were back in Cambodia, he's like, this is my boat.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: This is home.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: He had no sicknesses. He was like.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: He was eating bark.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: He climbed a coconut tree, came down, scraped the hell out of both his thighs, like, raw. A couple days later, he scabbed over. No. No infection. I was just like, oh, anybody else would have just been dead.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: Yeah, somebody would have died.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
But anyway, yeah, I get. There's more. Go ahead. Fire away. If you got any more questions about.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Survivor, I can't wait to go back and rewatch the entire season. That's going to be so fun.
[00:37:55] Speaker C: Okay. Jeff Probst.
I get the gist. He's like a nice guy, you know, personable, if you are so willing.
Jeff Probst.
[00:38:10] Speaker A: So as a. Like, before the show, verbose engaging, looks you in the eye, very cordial.
When you're a contestant, the producers tell you, do not talk to Jeff. Don't make small talk with Jeff unless Jeff directly engages you. Do not yell out Jeff. Like they tell you that.
So of course we're. We're in lockdown. We're going through one of those challenges. And I was like, jeff, Kansas, huh?
Don't remind Jeff Probst that he's from Wichita, Kansas.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: No kidding.
[00:38:45] Speaker A: He did not like that.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: You know that I. I watched the show today, and that. That is one Thing that I think has probably changed because he so is engaged with everybody. And even on this show, there's a girl that was on the show that is autistic, and she had a complete breakdown. And a guy from another team who's a fireman who she had met right away and told him she was the only guy she confided in. He literally said, jeff, can I. And Jeff's like, yeah. So he went over there and literally just. He. She said, if I lose it, I want you to hug me as tight as you can and help me stop this. They were on the same team in the beginning. Right. So. So we did that. She was just crying and so upset, and it calmed her down. And Jeff said, can. Can you share a little bit of what happened there? And as she was talking, Jeff started crying, and he said, you're the first contestant as. He's going, you know, you're the first contestant to make me freaking cry on the show. You know? And in the end, she said. She. She finished second, and they said, you know, what do you think you're showing? She's like, that was the first one to make Jeff cry. So I feel like I did pretty good, but, you know, it seems like there's a lot more engagement in the latter shows than what there was in the earlier shows.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: I am really glad that you love Survivor.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: I think it's a great show. I do. It's a great escape from real life.
[00:40:07] Speaker A: Because I'm not buying that scene at all.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: Oh, really? Sorry. You think the whole thing was faked out? It could have been.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: He faked crying, but I know 100%, they push your buttons. They love tears. They want people to cry.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: Because they need that story arc if everybody's getting along the whole time.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: No, I get that. Totally. Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: And so they probably pushed her buttons a little bit.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: She was failing at what she was doing, and she. She went into, like, this panic.
And you're right. They probably did push all of those buttons to make it happen.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: Testimonials. They'll push people to.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: I can see that you decry.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: So I'm not saying it was fake, because, yeah, they both cried, you know, and she. She used autistic. I heard that story.
But all I'm saying is it's quite possible that they tried to make that scene happen.
[00:40:55] Speaker B: No, I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my. I told you. My.
My son was on a reality television show, and we found out how unreal reality television was. In fact, when MTV would say, we're gonna go and film at the restaurant at this pizza place.
Then they'd be the first ones to leave so they didn't have to pay the bill.
And MTV left me and my buddy Kurt with almost every bill of every single scene that we shot somewhere outside of our facilities, and we got stuck with the bill every time.
MTV. Great. Great group of people there. MTV.
[00:41:31] Speaker C: All right, so Survivor 48 just wrapped.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:41:34] Speaker C: And I do know they already have 49 planned today. I saw on Tick Tock Jeff Probst naming off those who are going to be in the upcoming Survivor 50.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: Didn't even see that. I'm a Survivor fan and I didn't even see that.
[00:41:46] Speaker C: Spoiler alert. Scott is not on Survivor 50.
[00:41:49] Speaker B: Would you do it again?
[00:41:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: No, absolutely not.
[00:41:51] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: I can't.
[00:41:53] Speaker C: Well, there's that.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Okay, let's say. Let's say none of those things had happened. Would you have done it again?
[00:41:59] Speaker A: No, I. I had a blast once.
I don't want to be away from my family again for a week of casting, another week of casting, and then seven weeks out of the country.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: No, not worth it.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: I'm busy making memories with my kids. It was. It was a blast. I don't regret it at all.
But to do it again, again, I'm not trying to be famous.
[00:42:18] Speaker C: Yeah, sure.
So any thoughts on whether Survivor 50 will be the last?
[00:42:24] Speaker B: No.
[00:42:25] Speaker C: Then forever. I'm like, it's a huge end sometime, doesn't it?
[00:42:28] Speaker A: They're making too much money. I mean, as long as they keep making money.
[00:42:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:32] Speaker B: I don't want it to go away. And what would we wait every year for Survivor to come out in the spring and. Or in the winter and then again in the fall? That's such a great show for us.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:41] Speaker C: The Quinlan's like the Amazing Race and.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: We watched that too.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Yeah, That's a great show just to go on. Amazing Race.
[00:42:46] Speaker B: No way.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: After I got back from Survivor, it was a few months and the producer.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: Called me and he's like, now where.
[00:42:52] Speaker C: You been with your wife?
[00:42:53] Speaker A: Well, no, they. They were like, would you do it again? And I was like, you know, it's been a while. I probably would, but, you know. Are you asking? They're like, no, but, you know, we'll put you down. And they never called again about that, but somebody else, Jason actually from my season, called me and he goes, hey, CBS about to call you. I go, what now? And he goes, amazing Race. I go, all right, just. Just don't get your hopes up.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: And they called and I was like, all right, so I want this, this, this, this, and this or I can't do it. And they were like, yeah, people don't usually make those demands.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: They're usually excited.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: People aren't me.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Right.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: I. I've been on your show. It was awesome. And I want to go on Amazing Race, but if I get voted out from Amazing Race, I'm not gonna just stay wherever I'm at, I'm coming home. You know me. I'm not going to tell anybody. I'll follow the rules, but I'm coming home. I said, I know for a fact a person on my season that didn't go back to Ponderosa with the rest of the pre jury people. He went home. Oh. And he had been on reality TV show before for. And they gave him special brushes. So I was like, hey, it's not outside. And they're like, no, that's not true. I was like, it absolutely is.
[00:44:03] Speaker C: I know it is.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: So what about Big Brother? Have you ever watched that one?
[00:44:06] Speaker A: No, I've never watched that one. But no, I'm not doing that. Yeah, you're staying in the same place with somebody.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: I couldn't do Big Brother. I. I mean, I couldn't. I'm. I couldn't do Survivor either. I'd be voted out so quick. No way I could do that.
[00:44:18] Speaker C: I can't survive. All right, so I'm gonna make this the last question maybe in Survivorness.
So you're done recording the season. You go home and now they start airing the episodes. Did you watch?
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. And we actually filmed before season 31.
[00:44:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's right.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: And then they told us after we left, they're like, just so you know, you're 32. Next season is 31. They're gonna air this fall.
You're gonna be 32 next spring. We filmed in April or May, and so we had to wait almost a whole year off. The secret.
[00:44:59] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: Didn't want to know.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Oh, no way.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: When I got home, I had lost 46 pounds. She thought I won.
She didn't want to know. I was like, skinny and tan. I was back to my playing weight. 266. Yeah. And she was just like, whoa.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: Like, hey, hottie, put down that coconut.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: Here's a steak you need to eat.
But yeah, so we kept the secret.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: I started watching and the. The hilarious thing about the day I got voted out is my mom. It's not funny this part.
My mom has a rare disease where she can't feel her feet, and it's not diabetes, but it's like that where your nerves get neuropathy and all of a sudden it's just like there's no feeling. So she got up and she was in assisted living at the time. She's full care now, but she was an assisted living at the time. And she got up, stepped around on her foot, broke her ankle, couldn't feel it, but she was like, I think I might have broken my ankle. Calls me not in pain because she can't feel it.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: And the nurse takes a picture. I was like, oh, that's not supposed.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: To be in that direction.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: I was like, yeah, that's broken. So we went to the emergency room. My wife is two weeks from giving birth. We've planned her C section because our son was breech. He would not turn. They were trying to manipulate him. And so she's extremely pregnant. We're in the emergency room with my mom with a broken ankle and survivors coming on. And during the show, my phone is going nuts.
[00:46:24] Speaker B: Oh, I bet.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: Because I know what's about to happen.
Excuse me. And Survivor is setting up the post exit interviews for the next day. I'm doing People magazine and all these onlines and all these articles and stuff. And so they're calling me to set up appointments. And Dawn's like, you get voted out tonight, don't you?
[00:46:46] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:46:47] Speaker C: So while watching your season, I mean, are you getting pissed off because you're seeing what people are saying about you?
[00:46:54] Speaker A: I mean, I was a little surprised at how, you know, they kind of went villain hard on me and. And, you know, there were obviously, because I'm a human, there were lots of moments of levity that they just didn't include. And so as we were, you know, Jason and I were both kind of like, well, that's kind of, you know, I don't. Sorry if you have to edit that part out.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: Nope, we don't.
[00:47:17] Speaker C: No cussing already.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: One time there was a cuss word in the opening line.
[00:47:23] Speaker A: Leading up to the finale, you know, which is live. Jeff called and was like, hey, I talked to Jason and. And, you know, what do you think about apologizing?
And I said, oh, I'm sorry. For what?
And he goes, well, for the bullying. And I was like, jeffrey.
And he was on speakerphone. My wife was in the car. And I said, excuse me, you edited.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: Me into being a bully?
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that is fine. I am not complaining about that, nor will I ever, because it's reality tv. I know what I signed up for, but I'm not going to apologize for your edit.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:47:56] Speaker A: Because you left out parts where I was singing and dancing with that girl. Left the part where she was crying because it was raining and I was holding her like a little girl because she was sobbing so hard and she couldn't sleep and she was tired and cold and, and everything was going wrong in her world. And I held that little girl. And so, you know, you didn't show the depth of my entire character as a real human. So why would I apologize for you showing the parts where she was a nasty one and I responded appropriately to somebody that was annoying to everybody on the cast and to still probably refuses to talk to all, almost everybody on the cast.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: So that's not my apology to make. Jeff. I'll say what you want me to say. I'm not trying to get you to say what I want you to say, Jeff. It sounds like you are. Yeah, he lost his temper and that's how I knew at the finale I would not get any words in. I said four words during the finale. He, he directed my attention one time and I said, you could say that.
And I just dead banded because I did not want him to get anything out of me. I didn't want to freak out and give him some negative energy. I just said you could say that.
And that's all I said on the finale because.
[00:49:01] Speaker C: Interesting.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: I wasn't going to give him any answer to. You see, this is why.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a villain.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I, I, that was, that was it. And that's not why I wouldn't do it again. Like, again, I don't hold grudges. I don't give a. What he, you know, thinks about me.
I don't care. But I just wouldn't go again because I don't want to be away from my family.
[00:49:21] Speaker B: No, I don't blame you.
[00:49:22] Speaker C: There, there's, there's another reason you probably wouldn't do the show again. We're going to get into that here in a moment. Are we gonna break?
[00:49:28] Speaker B: We should. At least the two of us should do our mid show shot.
[00:49:32] Speaker C: All right, we'll be right back.
[00:49:34] Speaker B: Well, I want to say thanks for taking your time tonight. On a Wednesday night.
It's a Sunday night. If you're watching the show, really, it's a Wednesday night, kind of impromptu, you know, night to say, can you do it tonight? I really appreciate you taking your time. I appreciate your friendship. Over the years, I've followed everything that you've gone through very closely and you know, a lot of prayers towards your family. And I'm so glad that you're sitting right here today sharing this story. And it is amazing to me to know that you were famous before Survivor. So I find that really incredible as well.
[00:50:05] Speaker C: I was shocked today when I found out you were on Survivor.
Well, to all of you out there, thanks for watching Real Estate makes us drink. Hope you enjoyed this episode. Please go donate to the comment cause know you can help a lot of people. Thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: Cheers, everybody. Cheers. Scott. Thank you.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: Thank you, guys.
