Motocross, Charity, and Tequila Talk with Chuck Baldwin | Road to Recovery & More

Episode 71 March 02, 2025 00:50:02
Motocross, Charity, and Tequila Talk with Chuck Baldwin | Road to Recovery & More
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Motocross, Charity, and Tequila Talk with Chuck Baldwin | Road to Recovery & More

Mar 02 2025 | 00:50:02

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Motocross, Charity, and Tequila Talk with Chuck Baldwin | Road to Recovery & More | Real Estate Makes Us Drink Podcast

Join Brian Quinlan and Brad Niccum from Real Estate Makes Us Drink as they chat with Chuck Baldwin, a passionate motocross fan, charity volunteer for the Road to Recovery Foundation, and tequila enthusiast! In this episode, Chuck shares his journey in motocross, his involvement in the Road to Recovery Foundation, and how he got connected with Brad. From motocross racing to giving back through charity, and even enjoying a good tequila tasting, this episode covers it all. Plus, get an inside look at Road to Recovery’s efforts to help injured motocross racers and how you can get involved!

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[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hey, everybody. Welcome to real estate Makes us drink. I'm Brian Quinlan from Daniels Real Estate. [00:00:08] Speaker B: And I'm Brad Nickin from NEST Mortgage Group. [00:00:10] Speaker A: We're happy you're here. [00:00:11] Speaker B: I'm glad I'm here, too. [00:00:13] Speaker A: We have another guest today. Who do we got? [00:00:17] Speaker C: Chuck Baldwin. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Chuck Baldwin. Okay. How did you end up here? You and Brad go. [00:00:23] Speaker B: He got away. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Okay, good. [00:00:25] Speaker C: So my car. Yeah, so. Yeah. Yeah. We're not. We're not that far yet. So I've known Brad for. So let me go back here. So. Wife and I have been together for 20. So 2000. So. So we're, you know, we're at 25 or. What year. What year did you start working on? Marion County Fair. [00:00:44] Speaker B: We opened that track either the end of 2000 or beginning of 2001. [00:00:48] Speaker C: So a couple years before that. So 1998. So probably in the 98 or so 97. 1900s. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Right before the turn of the century. [00:00:55] Speaker C: Right before the turn of the century, yeah. So 1997, I got back into motocross. In 98, I got real serious and started racing, like, all across District 15. That's probably about the time. [00:01:06] Speaker B: About 99, when Blake. [00:01:08] Speaker C: 99 is when Blake got in. So, yeah, right around that 98. 99 time frame. So. Yeah. So that long. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Not at all related, but reminds me of a funny story. I had to. I had to call the IRS today. Oh, yeah, I know. Talk. [00:01:18] Speaker B: I'm surprised. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Very pleasant. [00:01:20] Speaker B: You're not still on hold, Actually, when. [00:01:22] Speaker A: I texted, you said I was on hold. That was with them anyways. I was trying to get a form sent to me. She says, well, we can mail it to you. Or if you happen to be somewhere that has a fax machine, we can fax you. I said, what are we in 1995? [00:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I actually say that to customers. [00:01:36] Speaker A: She thought that was quite funny. And at the. I said, I guess we're gonna have to go the snail mail route. And she says, okay, well, you know, in the meantime, if you feel you need it faster and you're somewhere that has a fax machine, we can do that. I said, all right, well, if I get a time machine, I'll be sure. [00:01:50] Speaker B: To let you know we actually have a. We actually have a fax machine in our office. I. [00:01:54] Speaker C: The Chucks. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Well, but if you have WhatsApp, you can fax to your WhatsApp. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Oh, I do have WhatsApp. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Well done. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:02:01] Speaker A: All right, well, cheers, Brad. Cheers to you, Chuck. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Nothing like starting the show off with the irs. [00:02:07] Speaker C: Come on, now. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Cheers. I was just stuck on the irs. You all. [00:02:11] Speaker A: What? What? [00:02:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:02:13] Speaker A: We got five tequilas. What's going on? [00:02:14] Speaker B: We do. We got. We got three tequilas and three flavor tequilas from Dano's Dangerous Tequila. And this is a really fun brand. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Hawaii five O right there. Bookham Dana. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Dude, book. Which one original or. Or redo? [00:02:29] Speaker A: The original is where really that came from. The redo was a good show. Don't. Even though it's 5o on that show is the worst police department in the history of the world. However, the original Hawaii 5o with Bookham Dano is good stuff. [00:02:42] Speaker B: But Dano is Dano's kid. Well, whatever, right? James Khan. And then that guy's James. Kind of cool. Dano's Dangerous Tequila. This is a really fun tequila. It was started by a guy named Dano. So a hippie surfer dude that lived in Colorado who made this phenomenal pineapple jalapeno tequila drink in his basement. Friend Tony May. You should make this drink. And they worked really hard to make a very real authentic drink. And you'll see this has got real pineapple and a jalapeno in it. They. They use an infusion. They really worked hard to find a distillery that would work with them to make this. They found NOM 1507, the Reyes Distillery, started in the 1800s. They use the oldest family recipe to make their blanco, which goes into Dano's Dangerous Jalapeno pineapple drink, which is absolutely amazing. So they made it a nice, clean, authentic, traditional tequila. Then they did, you know, your regular resting in brand new American oak barrels. They only use them one time, which is really unique for the tequila world. And they're using the reposado to infuse coffee beans in this one. So you have this great espresso martini type flavor. Great price range. All of them start in the 40s, only go up to like the high 50s. And if you go to Dano's Dangerous Tequilas website and you order any of these, put in Brad 2025, you get a 20% discount on any of the tequilas. And I'm telling you, it's worth it. [00:04:13] Speaker A: This is a great, great product for us. [00:04:15] Speaker B: Not really. It's more for the customer suite. They're getting the discount. We're not getting anything for it. But I. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Maybe I can get a T shirt out of them. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I would love to have a T shirt. They actually have a watch that has a 5 o'clock on every single number. That way, when you look at it, you know what it's after five somewhere. [00:04:30] Speaker A: After. [00:04:31] Speaker B: No, it's not five o'clock somewhere. Because keep in mind, at five o'clock, once it's 501, it's not five o'Clock anywhere. It's after five somewhere. I. I would rewrite that song if I was Alan Jackson. [00:04:42] Speaker C: I'll let. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Chuck, what do you got over here? [00:04:44] Speaker C: So I'm drinking the blanco. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:04:46] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, again, great tequila. You know, Brad kind of turned me on to. To tequilas when we kind of got to get back together, you know, just, you know, last year during supercross and stuff. I know. Got the band back together, so we just kind of did a. A kind of A tasting of. Of. Of allure. Is that how you say it? Is. It's okay. Their blanco was great. This one still, you know, always when you think of tequilas, you know, as someone that's coming from the bourbon side, you always think of tequila as being that. That alcoholic. Bernie, you know, bite that fire. Bite again. This one's really super good blanco. I haven't had the others, but yeah, the blanco is. Is great. Yeah, no complaints at all with it. [00:05:21] Speaker B: You. You'll probably drink through these. You have a stink bug flying right there. Did you see that? [00:05:25] Speaker C: They just pop up. [00:05:26] Speaker A: That's stink. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Random. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Hate that. Can we take that out? [00:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, well, I've got beer, which is surprising. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Today we're trying a Goose island, the beer called Sophie, which. There's a little gold retriever here. [00:05:42] Speaker B: That's a. [00:05:42] Speaker A: That might be Sophie. [00:05:44] Speaker B: That was a good dog. She's a good girl. [00:05:46] Speaker A: Laid back with a slice of orange. That dog looks pretty laid back. [00:05:50] Speaker B: And you like the orange. [00:05:51] Speaker A: I do like the orange flavored beers. So Goose island out of Chicago again. Assuming that's the dog on the. On the label. [00:05:58] Speaker B: Stop. [00:05:58] Speaker A: There's no story here. Maybe it's on their website. [00:06:00] Speaker B: You'd wear a T shirt from them. [00:06:01] Speaker A: When I would absolutely do that. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker C: And I really kind of expected this. Deep dive. [00:06:05] Speaker A: No. [00:06:06] Speaker C: No. So just this kind of best I can do. [00:06:08] Speaker A: What can shows me six and a half percent alcohol by volume. There's. There's really no deep dive when it comes to me and beers. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Chuck, he doesn't have a beer show. [00:06:17] Speaker C: I do not have a beer show. [00:06:19] Speaker B: His beer show would be something like this. Hi, I'm Brian. I'm drinking this beer. It's okay. [00:06:24] Speaker A: It's a. It's a golden color. Tastes like other beers that I drink. [00:06:31] Speaker B: I don't know though. I actually think that if you do the right thumbnails and the right SEO optimization with perfect keywords. You could become a YouTuber with that. [00:06:40] Speaker A: Oh, this is a great plan. And with your tequila knowledge, you should have a show. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I do. [00:06:45] Speaker A: You do? [00:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Tasting tequila with Brad, YouTube and all the social medias. If you're not checking it out, you're missing out. [00:06:53] Speaker B: It's a lot of fun. It really is. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Be the slogan on your shirt. If you're not checking it out, you're missing out. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Oh. You know, when we first started Ride Live B, which is a T shirt company that we had, we had. I had lost a lot of weight. We were all working out really hard, so we made a shirt that said train insane or stay the same. And that shirt took off because, you know, you got to work hard. And working hard is what you're about to do. We'll talk about it here in a little bit. But you're about to work hard. [00:07:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:24] Speaker B: We don't want to take time away from Chuck because for all of you that don't know this, this is actually our second run through. Somebody didn't hit record. Right. So we're going to talk about some of the same stuff that we talk about. Did you point at me? [00:07:38] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:07:39] Speaker B: Did I just want to make sure. I was hoping during this part of the show that you'd have a flashing red arrow. Oh, that's. [00:07:45] Speaker A: I can. That can be arranged. [00:07:47] Speaker B: So Chuck. I've known Chuck for a long time through motocross racing. And one of the things that I really was impressed with Chuck was the amount of time he spent working with a charity, a non for profit, that really helped injured motocross racers called Road to Recovery. And we both have a lot of friends that have been hurt motocross racing. And he spent a long time of his working career volunteering with Road to Recovery. And tell them a little bit about Road Recovery is because I know it's still around and. And what you did with them and how can people still help out with them? [00:08:21] Speaker A: Did you start this company? [00:08:23] Speaker C: No, did not. Okay. Yeah. No. So, you know, so you go back to when it started would have been like the late, Gosh, boy, I'm gonna get something wrong here. And I should know that no one's listening. So Jimmy Button, who was a guy. Yeah, yeah. It's not like we got tens of. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Listeners, tens of listeners. [00:08:40] Speaker C: So Jimmy Button was a guy, was a massive fan of, you know, throughout my motocross time and stuff like that. I was just a guy who's like oh, love to style. Like I like this dude. He unfortunately had an accident and had. You know what the foundation stands for is a career in career ending injury. At the time the road recovery didn't exist. So you had another gentleman. So Jimmy was from the Arizona area. Another gentleman by the name of Bob Moore was also from the Arizona area and you know, knew Jimmy and Anita and Jim and and kind of everything there and knew what they were part of. You know they're, you know, Bob's a little bit older than Jimmy so knew the family and stuff and wanted to help out Jimmy. So with that that kind of started the inception of the Road to Recovery Foundation. It was originally started to assist Jimmy in his recovery. And Jimmy famously, I'll say famously was able to present Jerry McGrath with Supercross Championship at the banquet of that year that he got injured. So he went from being paralyzed. I want to say Jimmy's injury got him from about the chest down to where so chest down not walking to X amount of months later walking assisted but walking and you know presenting Jeremy with so huge. So that was like the inception of it. I got started with the foundation. Seems like it was an 03ish. This is kind of when I first met like Bob and that whole group. Wife and I went out to the to their annual golf outing. Kind of met with everybody there. At the time the foundation was kind of moving on from its current, you know, current group of people to a little more of a structure and they brought in someone else to kind of head up the foundation. Kind of talk to him about me. He called me and you know, guy named by the name of Tom White, White brothers and stuff and said hey, you know, like kind of your ideas. We're going to make this board of directors. We'd like for you to be a part of it. It's kind of like this. I was the only person that was like regular guy. Like I work at Eli Lillian Co. You know, I had no other than Racing District 15. I was nothing. But I enjoyed helping people. And honestly I was a big fan of Jimmy Button. You know the odd thing about that is, you know I look at myself like two years later going to Anaheim in Jimmy's car, leaving Anaheim at the end of the night, going back to his house to stay there with him and his wife and mom. Like for me, kind of surreal to be in like boy from Indiana that just because I wanted to help people had a fan, you know, was a fan of this guy and then took two years later I'm in his vehicle, running around to the races and stuff. [00:11:09] Speaker B: Helping a lot of people. I mean, that's the part that you gotta understand is how many people were lives you touched by helping. [00:11:15] Speaker C: Well, and that's where, you know, you know, it started off as, you know, a very small group of people. Bob Moore, Bob Walker, you know, Anita Button kind of was getting involved at the time, which was Jimmy's mom. Because again, they were trying to figure out how can we expand the same. Because, you know, Jimmy, Bob and Bob were, you know, they had a company called Action Sports Management. That company was trying to, you know, manage athletes, but also kind of support the Road Recovery Foundation. But it was just like, you know, it's like anything. You've got a full time job, it's hard to do other stuff. So they brought in Jimmy's mom again. This was a kind of the same time that Tom was, was coming in as a kind of CEO of IT and brought me in. And then Anita and I and the group kind of developed the Supercross program that Brad kind of remembers. And we started doing more events. That's where the fast, Fast Guys indycarding event came to play. So we had a carding event up at Fast Times, Indoor karting, did that for a number of years. That's where Brad got involved and has, you know, a lot of fun stories and that's kind of where I got my start. And then that grew into bigger roles and stuff kind of as years go on. And then I kind of wrapped up my tenure there in 2018. You know, it was, you know, from my end it was fun doing it. I kind of got to the point. So my first daughter was born in 2010 and it was one of those things like you start Supercross runs from January to May and that was the main part of our program. And then you had the outdoors. We didn't do as much. But from January to May, I would work Monday through Thursday or Monday through Friday, Friday night, head to the airport, come back Sunday, be home Sunday night, you know, so it was kind of to the point that, you know, the kids are getting to this next stage in life and I, you know, it just kind of was natural. It was time to step back from it. Foundation is still around, still doing a great thing, you know, still helping out athletes. You can go to road to recovery.com and see what athletes they are helping. Unfortunately, I think it was Arizona. We, they had a rider go down. So there's a kind of a new program out there for him. So yeah, they're still very active. [00:13:07] Speaker A: So road to recovery. What provides money to the athletes, provides them equipment, like what do they do? [00:13:14] Speaker C: Yeah, so it's financial assistance. So, you know, these are athletes that have had career ending injuries. So in what started off, you know, in the motorcycle world, like when you think of career ending injuries, it's not breaking your leg and, you know, saying, oh, I'm not going to race anymore. [00:13:29] Speaker B: In fact, a rider just finished an entire evening of racing with a broken leg. [00:13:35] Speaker A: Wow. [00:13:35] Speaker C: Yes, Mr. Tomac. [00:13:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:38] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm sad. [00:13:39] Speaker A: It hurt. [00:13:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:40] Speaker B: But he's not going to quit. So he raced and then the next day they found out, well, you know, you did a great job finishing the race and. But your leg is broken. [00:13:49] Speaker C: Wow. [00:13:49] Speaker B: And crazy enough, that's not the first guy we know that race with a broken leg. [00:13:54] Speaker C: Probably not. Yeah. A lot of other injuries. So, you know, the unfortunate thing is when you look at, you know, supercross and motocross, the typical injury that is career ending as a spinal cord injury. Most of these athletes, you know, although when you look at like the top end, these guys can have life insurance policy, you know, you know, a disability insurance. Yeah. To where if they have that career in an injury, they get paid out, you know, for the rest of their life. [00:14:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:18] Speaker C: Uh, you know, for sure. I know writers that have, you know, been fortunate enough to afford those policies. Those policies are hundreds of thousands of dollars. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Wow. [00:14:25] Speaker C: So they're not available to everybody. But if you're making an $800,000 contract to spend 50 to $100,000 on something that guarantees that if this does happen, I get paid $50,000 for the rest of my life every year. [00:14:39] Speaker B: You know, but those are the, the low. Those are very small percentage that can. [00:14:43] Speaker C: Do that for the majority of the people, though. One, it is hard to get health insurance when you put down what do you do for a living? I jump motorcycles 30ft in the air. Maybe I'm not going to, you know, you know, insure you, or if I do, it's going to be thousands. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. You don't seem like that. And what. There was a movie where a guy was just trying to get insurance, but he kept jumping out of planes and climbing mountains. And you remember the movie I'm talking. [00:15:07] Speaker A: About with Ben Stiller. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Yes. And he couldn't get insured. And they kept like, you got to quit, you know, you got to come back and take this run on the treadmill to do your health test. He's like, I can't. I'm parachuting into A scuba dive, like. Yeah, it's like crazy stuff. That's the motocross guys. [00:15:24] Speaker C: Yeah. So it's just, it's one of those things that is tough too. So I mean, when you have that type of injury and stuff, you know, having a spinal cord injury, I mean it is, it's life changing for you and family and everything else. So to have some support there is helpful. There is insurance through the ama, but it's not that great. So to have some sort of supplemental insurance. And it's not insurance, it's supplemental income. We'll, we'll say. So the foundation, you know, the goal was to, you know, have this, this kitty of money kind of always sitting there. They have an endowment and stuff that they pay into. That endowment, you know, has, you know, certain stock structure and everything else with it that, that if it gets to a certain amount, it can pay out X amount to a riders per year. And it paid out certain amount of, you know, we're kind of self insured to be able to pay out X amount of riders per year. So if two guys got injured and we had this much money in the endowment, we'd be able to give away this much money. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:11] Speaker C: For every year. So, you know, they've had all this stuff set up, you know, so that's the thing is just to try to help them there. Now they have expanded to where it's not just financial assistance. They've got all sorts of programs with mobility providers, construction people that can build ramps and help out with home. You know, the changes. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it changes your whole life, all that stuff. [00:16:31] Speaker C: Yeah, it's one of those things where as they've gotten bigger and as you know, as Anita and all of us had developed the supercross program, it got us more visible to where all those people started reaching out to us. Hey, we can help. We can help. We see what you're doing. Here's what we can do. So they've got a pretty phenomenal network. People that if you get injured, they can. And it's everything, it's from the right doctor. So, you know, to get injured and I get injured in Indiana, you know, one of the best hospitals is down in Atlanta. Hey, we'll get you set up down there to get you down there. They have a phenomenal network of people that they deal with now. So it's not just that financial assistance. They have the right people there that help you through all stages of when you get injured to when you go home to what it's going to be like in those Years afterwards, they've really got a good group of people that. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Now, I believe you said it has expanded where it's not just the supercross riders. [00:17:23] Speaker C: Yeah. So when you look at, you know, supercross and motocross, I mean, you know, inherently dangerous sport. But you know, you look at athletes in, you know, whether it's BMX skate, you know, even surfing, we had a surfer that, that got injured. It really is these what I, what I'll call high risk sports. [00:17:40] Speaker A: So we basically, the X Games, we call them. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Oh, it is action sports. It sounds better. [00:17:46] Speaker C: Yeah. So they really kind of, you know, there's that umbrella of action sports. When you think of NFL and NBA and stuff, there's this umbrella of action sports and there's this whole list of high risk takers out there. And it is those people that just don't have that type of coverage, you know. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:58] Speaker C: NBA and NFL, you have players unions and all that stuff. [00:18:01] Speaker A: And million dollar contracts. Even the lowest guy on the team. [00:18:04] Speaker B: I mean, didn't some baseball player just sign like almost a billion dollar contract? [00:18:09] Speaker A: Probably, yeah. [00:18:10] Speaker C: I mean, Ohtani the. [00:18:11] Speaker A: He got 700. [00:18:12] Speaker B: No, there's a guy more now Soto, probably. [00:18:16] Speaker A: I didn't, I truly don't know. [00:18:17] Speaker B: I, I didn't recognize his name. But I, I wouldn't know a baseball if they walked in the door or baseball. Really. I don't know the difference between a baseball and a softball. One's bigger, I think. [00:18:28] Speaker C: Right? Yeah, that's it. That's. Yeah, that's kind of the, you know, the fact that both are hit by. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Men but one of them might be in a skirt. Is that what I'm thinking? [00:18:39] Speaker A: No skirts on the softball. Feel like it's a. [00:18:41] Speaker C: No, there's no skirts on the Ryan. But yeah, so they did expand into all action sports and stuff. So. And then honestly, I can probably say in most of the sports, I bet you they've helped out one athlete in every sport. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:18:53] Speaker C: It's. It's an unfortunate side to what us. I mean, I'm one of those people that's. I still, to this day, I still love the fill of adrenaline and stuff. So if for us that kind of love that feeling and stuff, there's this group that does help people out. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, the sport is. So this is sport that Brian's going to get introduced to on, on March 8th when he gets to come to Supercross. Hopefully we can. I want to get him on a track crew where he has to fix some of the ruts and stuff. I think it'd be good to have him down there at the shovel doing some work. [00:19:21] Speaker A: But I'm sure they want me down. [00:19:23] Speaker B: There to what these guys do and how hard this sport really is. And then to, to know like you. We were talking about Brian running a marathon and you having hardware and my son has a bunch of hardware as well. So you guys are all put back together. And my wife joined that program with her mountain bike accident. So she's, she's part of the titanium club as well. And you know, she had what could have been a life changing injury with the spinal, you know, the, a broken back that she had. And thank God she didn't have a spinal injury because that is life changing. You know, there's. You take the whole upstairs of your house out of the game, right? It changes everything. So what they've done with road recovery is really pretty impressive. And to know that you spent so many years away from your family. Now granted, in a sport that you love and doing all the things you love, but you know, you still, you sacrifice that time away from your family to help other people and that means a lot. [00:20:16] Speaker C: And that's what it was all about. I mean it's, you know, I look back at it and think of, you know, it's amazing how many people, you know, even today that I, that I kind of talked to and I was talking to Jason Wigant last night, one of the supercross announcers and, and how many people thought that was my full time job because I was just there every weekend and it was like, no, I'm find out, you know, Monday through Friday, I'm Mr. Eli Lilly. You know, I work for Eli Lilly. So no, this was me just wanting to go out and help people on the weekends. And it was. Well, absolutely one of the funnest things I got to do. I got to meet people that I absolutely admired. And the whole reason I did it was because I was this fan of Jimmy Button, you know. And then I look back at it and again staying at his house still to this day, his mom and I just texted, you know, very recently. So still very close to that family and everything. So that's the neat part. And you know, I, I go through the, you know, it's still funny sometimes you go through your phone and. Yeah, and God darn, I know. [00:21:09] Speaker B: I can't believe I know that guy. [00:21:10] Speaker C: Holy cow. Is still tech. You know. So it's for, for a motocrosser from Indiana, it's pretty neat to still so. [00:21:17] Speaker B: A person with such a helping heart. Can I Get maybe a stock tip. Should I buy more Lily stock? [00:21:26] Speaker C: I would. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Okay. That's all I need to hear. [00:21:28] Speaker C: Leave it there. So we just announced a $50 billion investment. Wow. Going forward. So. Yeah. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Wow. Well, I feel like my mom just got diagnosed. Diagnosed with Alzheimer's. And I really feel like that's in my future because my whole family hasn't. And the tequila in the evenings, not helping any. So if you could work on. Be really helpful. [00:21:49] Speaker C: Lily has a drug currently that has had a phenomenal success in reducing some of those effects. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Hopefully I remember that tomorrow I would. [00:21:57] Speaker C: Say, look, I'll just say look into it. I'm not here to promote anything. But yeah, I, you know, Lily has drugs that are amaz on the market. Yeah, it is. [00:22:05] Speaker B: So that helper's heart. I want to ask for your help because Brian has agreed to run a marathon and in just months from now. I mean, it's just months away, dude. It's just right here. Like. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah. You got to start that timeline you're. [00:22:18] Speaker B: Pointing and it's right back here. So we need help getting people to reach in their pockets and donate just five bucks to help Brian raise $1,000 for a local food pantry. So $1,000 goes a long way. And currently we are at this dollar amount right here and we're trying to raise this dollar amount right here. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:42] Speaker B: And if we raise that thousand dollars, I've agreed because I'm not giving anything up. I'm going to run it anyway. I'm going to match that thousand dollars. So we'll give away that dollar amount right there. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Thousand dollars. [00:22:55] Speaker B: I just want you to bounce those numbers over the top of us. I think that's so. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Huh? Yeah. [00:22:59] Speaker B: So what, what do you think we could do besides showing his Venmo, Keeping him from showing his can. [00:23:07] Speaker C: And don't show your cans. We don't. We don't need to see. [00:23:11] Speaker A: Maybe that would help. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Maybe it helped. [00:23:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Percentage of people for a thousand extra. [00:23:16] Speaker B: Dollars. [00:23:18] Speaker C: Showing the can. [00:23:20] Speaker B: So what would you do that would really help Brian? Raise 400 more dollars? [00:23:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I, you know, I think the biggest thing is, is passion and being able to convey that what you're doing is because you truly feel you're making the difference. So with all the work that I did through the road recovery stuff, I mean, that was, you know, you know, that was going to super crosses. We had this on site activation. We had a VIP program that gave people special accesses to rigs and stuff. And that's part of what I did. That's One thing, there's another way to, you know, but to the core level. So I was fortunate enough just very recently here. So November. Ish. So I'm in Lapel, Indiana. Just go to. Go to Lapel. Go, Bulldogs. [00:24:03] Speaker B: You're a Lapelian. [00:24:04] Speaker C: I'm a Bulldog. We'll go with that. Bulldog I like. There was a group of ladies there, somebody that I think both of you should know. A lady by the name of Stephanie Evolo. [00:24:13] Speaker B: I do. [00:24:14] Speaker A: I don't know that I've met Stephanie, but I know of the real estate superstar. That is true. [00:24:20] Speaker B: And has a huge giving heart and everything that she does. [00:24:23] Speaker C: And that's what I know her from. So being in Lapel, you know, I always see the team signs and stuff. So anyway, she had this thing that she wanted to raise money for people that were affected by the storms that ran through Tennessee, you know, West Virginia, Tennessee and stuff. So she put a thing up on, like, the lapel chatter group. And I kind of saw it. I was like, you know what? I enjoy doing that stuff. And I see Stephanie and Derek at every football game or basketball game. There's their son is a junior sports guy. So I see him all the time. Knew him through mutual friends, said, hey, Stephanie, here's a little bit of what I used to do. What do we need to do? [00:24:56] Speaker B: I built an ngo. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:58] Speaker C: So. So I think the thing that you. That you got to be able to convey to people is your passion behind it. So from what this lapel group did, and it's now called, like, lapel labor Love. And Stephanie and I are kind of slowly talking about, do we want to actually finally turn this into, like a 501C3. We did this as just doing it. And what we ended up doing is, honestly, within three weeks, we built out over 1200 stockings, you know, so. So you think about these. These storms that came through Tennessee, where people had their homes completely wiped off bloody, you know, over rivers, home gone. Like, roads gone, everything, just nothing. So Stephanie had this grand idea. I want these kids to have a Christmas. The area of Hampton, Tennessee, happened to be the Hampton Bulldogs. So we said, let's grab them dogs. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Help a bulldog. [00:25:47] Speaker B: Because it's hard to find other lapelians. [00:25:49] Speaker C: As you find another lapel. We found more Bulldogs. So Stephanie and the group, we reached out to the school. We got a roster of what the classes were, and we said, okay, we want to give all these kids stockings. And seriously, over three weeks between crowdfunding, letting people know that, hey, this is what we're Doing in the amount of three weeks, we were able to stock 1200 stockings and had stuff left over. And then Stephanie and Derek and some other friends took those in for the grade school kids. Derek dressed up a Santa Claus and, you know, kind of gave stuff. The amount of feedback that we got back is heart wrenching. Like, it's so unbelievable to see like that little stocking. And we put this, the cost on stocking said, hey, if you want to build one out yourself, do not spend more than 10 or $20. Like, we didn't want these. We didn't want, you know, someone that was just forced enough to open it up and have a necklace from Reese Nichols. Right, right. It was like, hey, keep these like 20 some dollars so everybody kind of gets something but nobody feels slighted. Like, you got that? I got this. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Sure. [00:26:48] Speaker C: Um, and we did it and we had stuff left over. The biggest thing, honestly, is conveying what you're wanting to do and be passionate about it. Don't be doing it just because I want to raise money for this. Convey to people that, hey, I love this because of what they're doing. For our end, it was very easy because we're dealing with kids and you can't help but have a heartstring for kids. Whether it's a kindergartner or an eight or a senior in high school, you can't help but feel for what those kids went through. So I think so. So to me, from the food bank side, I mean, it's being able to tell people that, you know, the three of us sitting here, no matter what, we're fortunate we're sitting here behind microphones drinking. I mean, we're drinking great tequila. So to be able to like convey and say, guys, just remember that there are people that, that seriously, a. A package of hamburgers can make the world change their. [00:27:42] Speaker B: Change their day. [00:27:43] Speaker C: So it's being able to do that and then showing that, hey, we've got this, this community here and this little food pantry. And, and honestly, you know, take a video of that food pantry, walk into it, show it what they do have, but then say, think of what more they could do. Like, here's a shelf of all these canned goods. All these cans here are $30. Imagine if I had a thousand bucks, what I could do to this wall. And it's little things like that. And. And then honestly, I mean, from our end, it was all Facebook. [00:28:09] Speaker B: I mean, I can't wait till Chuck sees your videos because it's going to be a video. [00:28:13] Speaker C: I see you running a Treadmill. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Gigantic. [00:28:16] Speaker C: The hang hat. [00:28:17] Speaker B: You know, the gigantic hat. Have you seen the gigantic. [00:28:19] Speaker C: Well, first at the casino night. [00:28:21] Speaker A: That's right. [00:28:21] Speaker C: That's right. [00:28:22] Speaker A: You did. [00:28:22] Speaker B: Yeah. They probably kept knocking chips out of your hand. [00:28:26] Speaker C: Oh, they were all spread out on the craft stable. [00:28:28] Speaker A: There were a lot. [00:28:29] Speaker B: That's a good idea. We should video there. [00:28:32] Speaker C: It's one of those things, like when you. To me, when you see what people are going through. And, yeah, Stephanie did a great job at that. Of. Of, like, showing some videos and stuff of, you know, here is this. Here's this river. Here's this river bank. And for me to just look at that, you know, initially, I'm just like, okay, it's a river and riverbank. No, there used to be homes on either side of that river bank. They're like. You don't even see foundations. Foundations are filled in with soot and muck. And so. No, remember, there used to be homes there. So it gives you a chance to say, holy cow. That really. That person really is feeling that. So to me, I mean, if I was. You know. And again, here's the spitball thing. If I was trying to show somebody the impact of a food bank. I show the inside of the food bank and say, guys, here's what they have. But imagine if we had filled our money, what we could do here. And I think a $2,000 at a food bank. You think, what can you do with $2,000 at Sam's Club, Aldi, you know, any of those. Or you'd fill it. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Or even some of the places that will sell you that food at a lower cost because it's going to a food bank. Really? Fill it up. Yeah. So that's great. I appreciate that. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Good advice. [00:29:36] Speaker B: We'll also send you the Venmo. Yeah. You know, because he does work at Lily, and that's not a little company. [00:29:45] Speaker C: You help your people, I'll help my people. [00:29:46] Speaker B: I love Chuck. That is absolutely awesome. What do you got, Brian? You got any other. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Are we doing shots today? [00:29:53] Speaker B: Yeah, we got to pick something. You want to choose something? [00:29:56] Speaker A: It's not. Never my choice. [00:29:58] Speaker B: So this. This is the part of the show where we do a shot and we pick some type of liquor off the shelf. I used to say we just pick it off the shelf. [00:30:07] Speaker A: It can be off the secondary shelf. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Now there's no. It's all tequila on the shelf. So now it's like Brian's worst nightmare. [00:30:14] Speaker C: You're. [00:30:15] Speaker B: You're learning, though. [00:30:15] Speaker A: You're trying. [00:30:16] Speaker C: Yeah, he's trying. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:30:18] Speaker B: So you're a bourbon guy. [00:30:21] Speaker C: Yes. I would say you have gotten me to enjoy tequilas for sure. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Okay, so I. We have a mutual friend, Dr. J. Schmoltz. Right. Dr. Julie. And she has a fantastic whiskey. Whiskey, A rye whiskey, a three year aged phenomenal whiskey. So because I've, I've pulled you to tequila and Brian, he's such a whiskey fan. Let's pull down a fortune spool and let's do a taste of fortune school. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Outstanding. [00:30:55] Speaker B: All right, we'll be right back with a glass of fortune spool. And while you're waiting, remember to donate to Brian's charity program to run a marathon. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Yes, please. I'm Brian, your Indianapolis realtor. If you are looking to buy or sell a house in the Indy area, I'm your guy. If you're coming from out of state, want to make a move to the Indy area, I'm your guy. Check out the show notes for a link. We can get in touch and get you started. Thanks for watching. Now back to the show. [00:31:22] Speaker B: All right, well, due to the magic of television. Right. [00:31:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:28] Speaker B: We're here. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Internet magic. [00:31:29] Speaker B: It would have been cool if we all changed shirts. Would it happen? Yeah, like. [00:31:33] Speaker C: But we used each other's shirts. [00:31:35] Speaker A: That'd be weird. [00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. We have. I have enough tequila for that yet. That's at the 13th bottle, right? [00:31:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:31:43] Speaker B: So we are now going to sip on a fantastic whiskey, Fortune's fool. Thank you, Dr. Julie. This is an amazing bourbon. That's our whiskey. That's coming right here locally from the it's owners here from Indiana. It's actually been made in Kentucky. Great bottles, great barrels. Great master distiller. This is a phenomenal brand. If I'm going to drink whiskey, this is what I'm drinking. So, Chuck, you got to give us your true thoughts on these. These are some really special barrels. She worked really hard to get the cooperage that she had to make these barrels. You guys are drinking out of fortune's full glasses. I'm drinking out of a respectable glass dose. [00:32:20] Speaker A: We went to Dr. J's wedding and it was right before she actually got these all bottled and sent out. These were how we found our seats. Everybody got their own little glass. [00:32:32] Speaker B: And there's a lot of. A lot of great things that are coming from this brand here locally in the Annapolis area and in the future with fortune's full spirit. So you're going to see some really cool stuff. [00:32:43] Speaker A: Heck yeah. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Wow. He put that away quick. [00:32:46] Speaker A: He's a bourbon guy. [00:32:46] Speaker C: Supposed to do right. [00:32:47] Speaker B: He's a Racer. [00:32:48] Speaker C: Thought you were supposed to do that. [00:32:48] Speaker B: He's a racer to finish first. I'm going to be third on the box. The box is what they stand on when they win and they get their trophies across. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:32:58] Speaker A: Third being the last one to step. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Up because people like second place. The first loser. [00:33:03] Speaker A: I've seen that movie. [00:33:04] Speaker C: Yes. [00:33:05] Speaker B: That's a movie from a movie. Is that from Days of Thunder? [00:33:11] Speaker A: No. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Ricky Bobby. Yeah. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Tell a Nigga Night. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Just so you know, that was our real life. Is that not true, Chuck? [00:33:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:20] Speaker B: How many times did you walk off and go, hell, yeah, I got second? [00:33:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Maybe they're rational. [00:33:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. The years I got my, you know, tickets to Loretta's and stuff like that, going through it was, you know, sometimes you're happy just to get a second say, I got it. I'm to the next stage. [00:33:36] Speaker B: That was never at Wildcat Creek or Cannonball. [00:33:39] Speaker C: Horse of mine were always in Michigan. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Now, Chuck, you were the one who raced the bikes. [00:33:46] Speaker C: I did. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Because, like, his story is his kids this. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm a dad. I'm a racing dad. [00:33:51] Speaker A: But you're a racing. The racer, he was a racer. Okay. [00:33:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Hence all the metal in my feet. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Ah, yes, he was a racer. [00:33:59] Speaker C: Bones, broken shoulders, broken ribs. I've. I've had a lot. Wow. [00:34:02] Speaker B: He was a racer. When his class went. Yeah. The kids would go up and watch him. [00:34:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:34:06] Speaker B: And then what was. Was really cool about that is when you. And you'll think through this too, you know, when you were in A class and all the 80 kids and 60 kids would come up and watch you ride, then now you look back and as a plus, we'll just say, let's say plus 30. [00:34:21] Speaker C: 50. [00:34:21] Speaker B: I'm plus 30. [00:34:22] Speaker C: Right. [00:34:23] Speaker B: But as a plus 50 rider. Now if you were at the racetrack and actually now they're even the kids younger than what you watch, but you know, when you're in your 40 class and you would now go watch the A riders, which were those 60 kids that watched you race in the A class. It's so cool. And it's like high school. You always know the seniors. You never know the seventh graders. Yeah. But in motocross, the kids that went from being 60 riders to a riders, the A riders know those A riders because they. They made it into that fraternity, if you will, and pulled off a couple of those. Like, there's my son's 2011AMA, first place in the state of Indiana. You know, we got that in 14 to 24. And I think 450A and 250A. Right. So those were the. Cool. [00:35:12] Speaker C: I typically crashed. No. [00:35:14] Speaker A: Did. Did your kids race? [00:35:17] Speaker C: I have two daughters. One is heavy into volleyball and the other one doesn't do sports. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:35:24] Speaker C: So no, I, it's funny that Brad, we texted just a couple of weeks ago and about something like, I'm at a volleyball thing, I can't tonight. And he's like, if I, if I didn't know you had kids, I'd be mad at you right now. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah, he went to the pro volleyball thing. Now listen, I. [00:35:38] Speaker A: The all star game. [00:35:39] Speaker C: No, no. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Ignite. [00:35:41] Speaker C: Ignite game. Yeah. [00:35:42] Speaker B: And I seen what they wear. And I thought, well, if he didn't have girls to play volleyball, I would be thinking different of him. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Tell you what, man, volleyball is very cool to watch when they know what they're doing. [00:35:52] Speaker C: It's, you know, there's, you know, especially when you, you know, not to take any away from the women. I mean some of the women that play, you know, like a tour that's on. Absolutely. In the ignite team. Unbelievable to watch the men though. Like I've been watching some men's college volleyball even in Europe. It is unbelievable. You know, there, there's a guy right now, he has an 84 mile an hour. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. [00:36:16] Speaker C: Wow. I'm like, could you imagine seeing, I don't know, what are they, 10 inch ball? Seeing this thing coming out. [00:36:22] Speaker B: I Never want a 10 inch ball to come up my face. [00:36:24] Speaker C: Yes. Dude, it's just so, it's, it's amazing. You know, my, my youngest, you know, Lapel bulldogs went undefeated this year, so phenomenal group of girls. So. Yeah, she's deep into it and, and that's just what we do now. I got out of racing in 2000. I. Well, I sold my last bike in 2010 and. And here's the thing it came down to. I never wanted the idea of ever getting hurt. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. [00:36:49] Speaker C: That's what big blanks with what it comes down to. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Ours was a drive home state champier when he knew that he had, had clinched all of the state titles. And we were le. We left the racetrack, we jumped on the highway and I looked over. I mean, you know, he's 22 years old, right. And he's sitting over there going, I'm okay. What's wrong with you? You kind of secured all of your titles. You know, the state titles. We don't. Honestly, we don't have to go to the next state race because you. He said, would you be mad at me if I Quit. And I was like, no, I'd never be mad at you. [00:37:23] Speaker C: Sure. [00:37:24] Speaker B: No, I learned that early. I. I yelled at him one time on the 60, and I yelled at him because he burned a clutch in the practice in the first moto and in the second Moto and I, I shoved. I threw the 60 in the back of the trailer. Didn't. Didn't even strap it down. And threw the trailer home. And we drove home from Redbud. And he cried the whole way because I yelled at him. And then two days later, when I finally cleaned it up, he had a frayed clutch cable. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Oh. [00:37:49] Speaker B: So it was my fault that he burned the clutch up. And I told him, I said, I'll never yell at you again. I never yelled. I was never jumping the jump. [00:37:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:56] Speaker B: I wouldn't, I wouldn't stare enough. Lara's lee on a 450. He was. So I never yelled at him. So when he said that, I was like, yeah, we can quit. Why do you want to quit? And he said, I'm riding absolutely terrified. And the year he had his crash and broke his femur, a very good friend of ours, Eric Saunders, crash was paralyzed. And then shortly after that at Red Bud, Josh Little had passed away. [00:38:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:20] Speaker B: And. And unfortunately, those weren't the first people. [00:38:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:24] Speaker B: You know, with Justin Weeks and just Jeff Jennings. [00:38:29] Speaker C: And I'll say local Jeff Jennings. [00:38:30] Speaker B: So many people. You know, Jeff went to school with Blake. Jeff went to Mount Vernon. Right. [00:38:34] Speaker C: So that's kind of that group of kids that went through the Navi Hill era. That's, you know. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:38] Speaker C: At the point when I got back into racing was seeing Blake and Jeffrey and kind of all those kids. And then I remember when Jeffrey got hurt. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:44] Speaker C: And it's just like, God, young kid. I seem super cross races. I haven't really ever went up and talked to him. Oh, you should look at him and go, I remember super happy. [00:38:51] Speaker B: He'd be so happy you came up. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker B: You know, so that Blake said, I'm just, I'm riding terrified. And I'm like, okay, we're done. And we, we never went to a race to race again. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:02] Speaker B: And he kept. He kept one of his JGR built 450s and would ride it and he'd go woods riding. Then he'd come home and he goes, okay, sell it, because I can't. I can't just ride. And you probably can relate with that. [00:39:16] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's. And how old's Blake now? [00:39:18] Speaker B: He's 30. He'll be 30 June. [00:39:21] Speaker C: Okay. So Here. Here's what's funny. And I. I seriously. I had this conversation over the summer. So a friend of mine, Billy Jannings, believe Billy got to double AGNCC and stuff, so, I mean, he was phenomenal rider. Roughly the same age as me. So we kind of, you know, kind of went through that same time and frame. Time frame and stuff. And we were just talking, and it's like, you know, I keep thinking about riding again, and it's one of those things. Like, I know in my head how fast I used to go and how fast I still feel I can go, because I'm not. You know, I'm not. I'm still not scared. The problem that I have is my body can't react when something goes wrong. It used to be able to. I'm 50 years old. Something twitches, my body doesn't tense up and correct real quick or nothing. I. It just. It just does. You. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Do you take a soil sample? [00:40:10] Speaker C: I take a soil sample. Those things like, you. You. I think you get to a point in life that, you know, risk versus reward. I love motorcycles. I love watching the supercrosses. I love watching, like, I love motorcycles still. But I'm just. There's nothing more important than my kids and my wife, you know? Yeah. So wife also. There's nothing more important than them. And the thought of. Of. Of having that injury and that happening, I just. It's. It outweighed it. And in 2010, when Madison was born, I was like, yeah, I'm done. [00:40:40] Speaker B: And think of Kurt Huff's dad still writing GNCC. It's 71 years. Like, oh. [00:40:45] Speaker C: Said I think about that. I want to do that. Like, I love to have a bike right now. And Billy and I raced to his 71. Yeah. So I've got friends, Doug Gert, that still gets out there and rides. Matt and Robert Davis. I mean. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah, they still ride. [00:40:58] Speaker C: Yeah, they still do, so. And I envy those guys so much because there's a part of me that says, you know, how to limit what you're doing, you know, how to manage risk versus reward. True. I was not that good. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:11] Speaker C: Go hard all the time. I just. I wanted to go fast. I love the feeling of going fast. [00:41:16] Speaker B: That's why I don't ride either, so. That's right. [00:41:19] Speaker A: I believe you said you had a. [00:41:20] Speaker C: Question, so I did. So I hit Brad up last year about this, and I think you'd be the perfect person. So, you know, I have a home, and I watch home shows all the time. Like, every. Every customer you have watches, home shows. I want to do this to my house. I want to do that to my house. Where do you balance what you do to keep up with the Joneses? And that's kind of a bad word, but keep up with the latest styles versus home prices. Like, I. I have taken walls down on my home. I've repainted stuff. Like, we have kept up with what the current thing is. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:54] Speaker C: And I have a friend that's an interior designer, and she said the new trends this year are traditional home design and this, that. And I'm like, so I have to put walls back up in my house. [00:42:02] Speaker A: Now, I actually did see that recently that buyers are oftentimes now preferring separate rooms. So, like, the idea of the great room has dissipated. [00:42:11] Speaker C: So I've asked Brad this last year because, you know, my kids, so we're big boaters, have lake house and stuff, but as you know, kids are on me about we want to pull at the house. So I asked Brad. I go, If I spend $100,000, put a pool in my home, do I see $75,000 in return? What do I see? So the same thing kind of falls with. I spend all this money modifying my home, making it look nice, making it look like what the current trend is. But then I see the house right across the road from me that just sold for $300,000, that hate to say it still looks like 1983. And I'm like, what the heck? On. Did I just spend 100 grand in the wrong? And what did I do something wrong? So perfect. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Okay, we have an answer. But, hey, Braden, you don't. You don't have to stay back there. Okay. Well, I just wanted. I wanted to make sure you knew the. As long as you don't run behind us, we can't see you. [00:43:05] Speaker C: When you. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Went that way, I'm like, he needs to know he's safe to come in the area. No bad touching. [00:43:11] Speaker A: Is actually an interior designer. [00:43:13] Speaker B: No bad touch. So that's a great break to answer that question, because he can edit that little. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Okay, so what I would recommend, it comes down to probably, how long do you intend to live there? [00:43:28] Speaker C: Sure. [00:43:29] Speaker A: So, you know, if you're thinking that you are going to sell the house in the next year, maybe to five years, you'd probably look more at maximizing your return. [00:43:41] Speaker C: Sure. [00:43:42] Speaker A: So your. Your choice of what you're going to do to the house probably makes more sense to pay attention to trends. [00:43:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:48] Speaker A: If you don't have any intention of selling in the near future, then who gives a shit? Do what you want. And that you're going to be happy with. I'll give you an example. Like at my house, we built our house in 2017 and we did not upgrade countertops anywhere in the house. We have nice cabinets but countertops were just, you know, basic. And I've told my wife actually in addition to that, in our ensuite bathroom we have a sink with a long countertop that could easily be a second sink. But we got the stand up shower which is what we wanted. And we came from a house where we had just one sink in our master bath. And so she was like, we've been fine doing that. We don't need to pay the extra for two sinks. [00:44:30] Speaker B: Looking back, I would have done that. [00:44:31] Speaker A: But sure, I've told her now I said, okay, when we go to resell this house, we're going to have to get a second sink. [00:44:38] Speaker C: Sure. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Because the majority of people looking to buy a house they want to see two sinks in the master bath. And I don't want to do it the year we're going to sell the house because I want to enjoy what we've put our money into and I can't guarantee we're going to get the money back from that. Same thing with our kitchen countertops. I would eventually like to upgrade the kitchen countertops but actually be able to use them before we eventually sell the house. So that to me it's more about timeline and when you're thinking of selling less so than keeping up with Jones. [00:45:12] Speaker C: And I think you hit a big piece there. I mean it's what makes you happy. I mean, and that's as I've talked to other people about this. I mean it's good to get like, you know, someone that's in the industry, you know, so it's good experience. So when I've talked to other family members about this, like you know, do you think that's the right move? All of them have said the same thing. Are you happy with living there right now? And I'm like, I loved it because that's what I wanted. Then they said you did the right thing. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:32] Speaker C: And ultimately do you plan on selling the host house? No, I plan on being there till my kids retire. Why you go to pay that thing off and live there to live at Lakes home and just have the problem. [00:45:42] Speaker B: You hit the nail on the head because you know we did a massive addition, we did a big change of our house and we didn't do this because we calculated what our return is right because my kids will sell it when I'm dead. [00:45:55] Speaker C: Sure. [00:45:55] Speaker B: So I only look at this and think my podcast studio is not big enough. Like I messed that up. But when, when you look at what you do, I, I use this example all the time because people ask me, you know, well, I'm going to update my kitchen and how much more is that going to, I'm going to put $20,000 in my kitchen. Well, your house isn't going to go up 20 grand. And I always say, you know, if you, if you take Donald Trump's golden toilet, it's a million dollar toilet and you put it in $100,000 house, you don't have a $1.1 million house. You got a hundred thousand dollar house with a million dollar toilet in it. So if you're going to do improvements and you want to truly increase value, that's increased square footage. Okay, if your home is below average in its appeal, inside you got old carpets and old layouts and you're below average and you bring it to average, that's going to increase your value. But if it cost you 50 grand to do those upgrades, you may see a 15 or $20,000 bump in that. If you put a $100,000 in ground pool in your backyard, you now have whatever cost of your home is with a hundred thousand dollar pool in your backyard. And some people will pay more for your pool. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Right? [00:47:04] Speaker B: Some people would mark your house off because they don't want to pool. [00:47:07] Speaker C: I was gonna say with a pool. [00:47:08] Speaker A: It'S, it's a matter of the right buyer because not everybody wants a pool. [00:47:11] Speaker C: Well, and I think that's it. And again, as I've kind of talked to people about this because it's just, it's just one of those things I'm confounded by is, is I again, I look on Zillow and all these different real realty websites and I see this home and I'm like, that home's from 1990 still. How's it going for that? So, you know, they all said it. The more updated the house is, it's going to be more appealing to appeal people. So sure, if you're looking to sell it, you may want to update it because your pool of people gets bigger. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Because right now, yeah, you know, maybe, maybe competitive offers like that. [00:47:40] Speaker C: So that's where I was like, okay, so maybe in some degree, you know, if you're, you know, wanting to, you know, like you said that one to five years, maybe you do it because, hey, I need to appeal to this Massive group of people. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:52] Speaker C: Or you take Meijer out and it is, no, I plan to live here forever. I just want to be happy with what the current thing is. We did want an open house. There are downsides to it. Like, there is no quiet anywhere. I love that. I love our home, but there's no quiet. The square footage thing is interesting because the one thing we did do is, you know, so I have. It's an 1850 square foot home, but it had a covered porch, 350 square feet. Number of years ago, we had that closed off, had heated everything. [00:48:21] Speaker B: New square footage. [00:48:21] Speaker C: Square footage. [00:48:22] Speaker B: It's a jump. [00:48:23] Speaker C: So that's what we've done. So the one thing we have been doing and now. And then even since then, I've had another outdoor patio put in. So we closed in the back porch to build another back porch that I'm now wanting to do an entire pergola over the whole thing. So the wife goes, so we had a back porch that you closed in to build a back porch that you now want to close in. I went, leave me alone. [00:48:45] Speaker B: Later, later. [00:48:46] Speaker A: The back porch. [00:48:47] Speaker B: Back porch is going to have a back porch. [00:48:49] Speaker A: Right. [00:48:49] Speaker B: You might want to look at those beer she ads. Those are really cool, too. [00:48:52] Speaker C: Well, that is. That was kind of one of the ideas is that goes off the back porch. Yeah. [00:48:56] Speaker B: So maybe we need to build you a podcast studio. [00:48:59] Speaker C: There we go. We'll see. But no, it's interesting to know because like I said, it's one of those things that you see all these trends and stuff, and. And it's like, okay, here's the next new thing. Because I told the wife, you know, again, the one designer that I went to high school with, she said, you know, here's the new paint color to scenes. And one thing is you're getting away from whites and blacks. We have black wainscoting with white tops. You know, with alabaster tops. I can change it all out. [00:49:21] Speaker A: I think maybe the best advice is stop watching those shows. [00:49:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. [00:49:25] Speaker C: So, yeah. So she's like, we're not repainting the house again. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:28] Speaker C: So no, thank you very much. [00:49:29] Speaker A: No, no, no problem. Glad I could help. Let's wrap this up, fellas. [00:49:34] Speaker B: You want to wrap it up? [00:49:35] Speaker A: We do. [00:49:35] Speaker B: Do you think? Because we do another one later. [00:49:38] Speaker A: We said, we do have more to do. [00:49:39] Speaker B: We do. Yeah. And then I have another one that. [00:49:42] Speaker A: Want to thank you for watching Real Estate Makes us Drink. Subscribe, Comment, Share. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Donate. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Always donate, donate. Throw that up there again to the pantry. Marathon. Cause and you both got empty glasses. So I will say cheers to you all. We'll see you next time on Real Estate. Makes a streak. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Thanks for watching, everybody.

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